diff --git a/backend/src/services/secret-v2-bridge/secret-v2-bridge-dal.ts b/backend/src/services/secret-v2-bridge/secret-v2-bridge-dal.ts
index 93afb3b55..d8220e4f5 100644
--- a/backend/src/services/secret-v2-bridge/secret-v2-bridge-dal.ts
+++ b/backend/src/services/secret-v2-bridge/secret-v2-bridge-dal.ts
@@ -446,9 +446,10 @@ export const secretV2BridgeDALFactory = ({ db, keyStore }: TSecretV2DalArg) => {
           }
         })
         .where((bd) => {
-          void bd
-            .whereNull(`${TableName.SecretV2}.userId`)
-            .orWhere({ [`${TableName.SecretV2}.userId` as "userId"]: userId || null });
+          void bd.whereNull(`${TableName.SecretV2}.userId`);
+          // scott: removing this as we don't need to count overrides
+          // and there is currently a bug when you move secrets that doesn't move the override so this can skew count
+          // .orWhere({ [`${TableName.SecretV2}.userId` as "userId"]: userId || null });
         })
         .countDistinct(`${TableName.SecretV2}.key`);
 
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails/SecretReferenceDetails.tsx b/frontend/src/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails/SecretReferenceDetails.tsx
index ada741145..d4f09ea8f 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails/SecretReferenceDetails.tsx
+++ b/frontend/src/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails/SecretReferenceDetails.tsx
@@ -130,6 +130,14 @@ export const SecretReferenceTree = ({ secretPath, environment, secretKey }: Prop
     );
   }
 
+  if (tree?.children?.length === 0) {
+    return (
+      <div className="flex items-center justify-center py-4">
+        <span className="text-mineshaft-400">This secret does not contain references</span>
+      </div>
+    );
+  }
+
   return (
     <div>
       <FormControl label="Expanded value">
diff --git a/frontend/src/hooks/api/secrets/queries.tsx b/frontend/src/hooks/api/secrets/queries.tsx
index b12cca38b..e3cbf7f0e 100644
--- a/frontend/src/hooks/api/secrets/queries.tsx
+++ b/frontend/src/hooks/api/secrets/queries.tsx
@@ -119,6 +119,7 @@ export const mergePersonalSecrets = (rawSecrets: SecretV3Raw[]) => {
       sec.valueOverride = personalSecret.value;
       sec.overrideAction = "modified";
       sec.isEmpty = personalSecret.isEmpty;
+      sec.secretValueHidden = false;
     }
   });
 
diff --git a/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/OverviewPage/components/SecretOverviewTableRow/SecretEditRow.tsx b/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/OverviewPage/components/SecretOverviewTableRow/SecretEditRow.tsx
index 84b58fb7f..be914024e 100644
--- a/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/OverviewPage/components/SecretOverviewTableRow/SecretEditRow.tsx
+++ b/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/OverviewPage/components/SecretOverviewTableRow/SecretEditRow.tsx
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-import { useCallback, useState } from "react";
+import { useCallback, useEffect, useState } from "react";
 import { Controller, useForm } from "react-hook-form";
 import { subject } from "@casl/ability";
 import {
@@ -15,10 +15,7 @@ import { twMerge } from "tailwind-merge";
 
 import { createNotification } from "@app/components/notifications";
 import { ProjectPermissionCan } from "@app/components/permissions";
-import {
-  hasSecretReference,
-  SecretReferenceTree
-} from "@app/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails";
+import { SecretReferenceTree } from "@app/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails";
 import {
   DeleteActionModal,
   IconButton,
@@ -150,13 +147,20 @@ export const SecretEditRow = ({
     control,
     reset,
     getValues,
+    setValue,
     formState: { isDirty, isSubmitting }
   } = useForm({
-    values: {
+    defaultValues: {
       value: (secretValueData?.valueOverride ?? secretValueData?.value) || null
     }
   });
 
+  useEffect(() => {
+    if (secretValueData && !isDirty) {
+      setValue("value", secretValueData.valueOverride ?? secretValueData.value);
+    }
+  }, [secretValueData]);
+
   const { permission } = useProjectPermission();
 
   const [isDeleting, setIsDeleting] = useToggle();
@@ -171,7 +175,7 @@ export const SecretEditRow = ({
   };
 
   const handleCopySecretToClipboard = async () => {
-    if (!isSecretValueFetched) {
+    if (!isSecretValueFetched && !isDirty) {
       try {
         const data = await fetchSecretValue(fetchSecretValueParams);
 
@@ -402,18 +406,12 @@ export const SecretEditRow = ({
               <Modal>
                 <ModalTrigger asChild>
                   <div className="opacity-0 group-hover:opacity-100">
-                    <Tooltip
-                      content={
-                        hasSecretReference(defaultValue || "")
-                          ? "Secret Reference Tree"
-                          : "Secret does not contain references"
-                      }
-                    >
+                    <Tooltip content="Secret Reference Tree">
                       <IconButton
                         variant="plain"
                         ariaLabel="reference-tree"
                         className="h-full"
-                        isDisabled={!hasSecretReference(defaultValue || "") || !canReadSecretValue}
+                        isDisabled={!canReadSecretValue || !secretId || isEmpty}
                       >
                         <FontAwesomeIcon icon={faProjectDiagram} />
                       </IconButton>
diff --git a/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/SecretDashboardPage/components/SecretListView/SecretDetailSidebar.tsx b/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/SecretDashboardPage/components/SecretListView/SecretDetailSidebar.tsx
index fa839be84..c0ba7184e 100644
--- a/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/SecretDashboardPage/components/SecretListView/SecretDetailSidebar.tsx
+++ b/frontend/src/pages/secret-manager/SecretDashboardPage/components/SecretListView/SecretDetailSidebar.tsx
@@ -21,10 +21,7 @@ import { Link } from "@tanstack/react-router";
 import { UpgradePlanModal } from "@app/components/license/UpgradePlanModal";
 import { createNotification } from "@app/components/notifications";
 import { ProjectPermissionCan } from "@app/components/permissions";
-import {
-  hasSecretReference,
-  SecretReferenceTree
-} from "@app/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails";
+import { SecretReferenceTree } from "@app/components/secrets/SecretReferenceDetails";
 import {
   Button,
   Drawer,
@@ -843,26 +840,15 @@ export const SecretDetailSidebar = ({
               )}
             </div>
             <div className="mt-auto flex items-center space-x-2 pb-4">
-              <Tooltip
-                content={
-                  hasSecretReference(secret?.value)
-                    ? undefined
-                    : "Secret does not contain any references."
-                }
-                className="z-[100] text-center"
+              <Button
+                className="flex-1"
+                variant="outline_bg"
+                isDisabled={cannotReadSecretValue || secret.isEmpty}
+                leftIcon={<FontAwesomeIcon icon={faProjectDiagram} />}
+                onClick={() => handlePopUpOpen("secretReferenceTree", secretKey)}
               >
-                <div className="flex-1">
-                  <Button
-                    className="w-full"
-                    variant="outline_bg"
-                    isDisabled={cannotReadSecretValue || !hasSecretReference(secret?.value)}
-                    leftIcon={<FontAwesomeIcon icon={faProjectDiagram} />}
-                    onClick={() => handlePopUpOpen("secretReferenceTree", secretKey)}
-                  >
-                    Secret Reference Tree
-                  </Button>
-                </div>
-              </Tooltip>
+                Secret Reference Tree
+              </Button>
               <Tooltip content="Copy Secret ID" className="z-[100]">
                 <IconButton
                   variant="outline_bg"